Wednesday, January 19, 2011

Photo Number 429

Page Number 28 in the Nettie Parks Album.
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The word Parmly ( which I believe to be Parmley) is written on the page.
Page 28 Parmly bunch
Silas, Clive, Howard, Mate and Aunt Ell.  I believe this is two families..but I am not sure how they are split up yet.
I believe that this photo may have been taken around 1890.
IMG_0753 Now if we go back to the first page in the album..this must be Mate Parmley..not Nate Parmley..and we know they lived near Grandpa Crandalls farm..up hill south the 2nd house.  Neighbors?  Cousins? Were Nettie Crandall Parks and Mate Parmley of about the same age and good friends?  Nettie was born in 1871 and married in 1896 when she was 25 years old.  I think that Mate was about 19 or 20 years old in the above photo..so it fits. It is also fitting that Nettie’s best friend or cousin was the first photo that was placed in the album.
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Update from Jim: Thanks Jim! 
this is the family of silas and lillian jane (neff) parmley. he was a civil war veteran

silas (augustus, truman, joshua, jehiel, joshua, john, john) was born 1 apr 1839 at toledo, ohio.

he married anna powell on 29 sep 1959 at houston, minn. they had five children: henry l., warren s., david h., clara m., and michael, all born between 1859 and 1865. anna, who was born about 1840 in pa, died 28 sep 1869 at wells, minn.

he then married lillian on 4 sep 1877 at shelden, minn. their children were:

--mary elizabeth, born 7 aug 1878, at macedonia, iowa, married william m. booton on 16 jan 1900.

--clive erwin, born 13 apr 1882, at henderson, iowa, married about 1902 to ella mae horback. their children were lizzie e (m ), dora m (m), and clivene e (m). clive's wwi draft card shows he was a motorman for the city trolley cars in los angeles. died 15 apr 1932 at los angeles; ella then lived with daughter clivene.

--arthur lorenzo, born 14 feb 1892 at macedonia, married bessie peska on 11 apr 1913. in 1955 he was living in oakland, calif. they had one child, william r.e. who married clara deitrich.

silas enlisted on 4 nov 1861 as a private for co. k, 46th illinois infantry, and mustered out 29 dec 1864. widow lillian filed for a pension.
he died 26 jan 1911 in council bluffs and was buried there.

my best guess is that "mate" is a nickname for daughter mary ... and howard sitting front and center is silas' son from his first marriage, david h -- the h standing for howard.

16 comments:

  1. What a great album this is - thanks for sharing it with us.

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  2. Lovely album and photos, I think the name is Kate (not Mate, the handwriting is a loopy K which looks like an M).

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  3. I discovered your blog quite by acccident. I check it everyday and am never disappointed. Like the other commenters, I am thoroughl enjoying going through this album with you. I have some old photos in storage that I will be glad to share with you some day.

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  4. I don't know...that letter does look more like an M...perhaps for Matilda?

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  5. I think I've found part of the family in the 1900 Census in Pottawattamie County, IA.

    Silas Parnsley, Head, b. Apr 1840
    Lillie J. Parnsley, Wife, b. Aug 1857
    Clive Parsley, Son, b. Apr 1883

    It looks like Clive lives down the road from his parents in 1910.

    I can't seem to find Mate, but I'll keep looking.

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  6. The 1920 US Census shows Clive E Parmley now living in Los Angeles married to Ella and with two children, Lillie (named after his mother?) and Mae (named after "Mate"?) The census also lists a Howard in Pottawattamie County but he was born well after 1890.

    I wonder just who's Aunt, Aunt El was? :)

    If the Clive born April, 1883 is in this picture - he would be 17-ish and the young man looks about that young (as does "Mate").

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  7. Clive had an older brother - Elmer E. born about 1881-2. He married an Ella May Hornback on 23 Jul 1902.

    The bride's parents were William H. Hornback and Elizabeth H. Covey.

    Just to add to the mess... I see Parnley, Parmley, Parmelee, Parmely and other creative spellings.

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  8. The last picture is particularly beautiful.

    So far, I'm really enjoying this blog. =)

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  9. I am thoroughly enjoying your exploration (and interpretation) of this album. And stunning images to accompany the series.

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  10. I think I found them in a family tree on ancestry.com. Here is a little of the info contained there:

    Silas Parmley (b. 1 Apr 1839) was married to Lillian Lyles (b. abt 1840) and they had three children (Arthur, Clive, and Mattie).

    It looks like Silas had previously been married to Anna Powell and had three children (Henry, Warren Silas, and Clara Mae).

    The owner of this tree is jlparmley. How can I put you in touch with him/her?

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  11. I was going to suggest Mattie as an alternate spelling of Mate. If you pronounce it phonetically it's Mat-e. Maybe it's just a misspelling?

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  12. Hi Patty, Just leave a link to the blog post or to my email..THanks! :)

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  13. If you look at the first page of the album, the first letter of "Mate" is just like the "M" in Macedonia, so I don't think it's a loopy "K."

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  14. My mom wrote on some of our great old photos like that.
    I guess that was better than not at all

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  15. this is the family of silas and lillian jane (neff) parmley. he was a civil war veteran

    silas (augustus, truman, joshua, jehiel, joshua, john, john) was born 1 apr 1839 at toledo, ohio.

    he married anna powell on 29 sep 1959 at houston, minn. they had five children: henry l., warren s., david h., clara m., and michael, all born between 1859 and 1865. anna, who was born about 1840 in pa, died 28 sep 1869 at wells, minn.

    he then married lillian on 4 sep 1877 at shelden, minn. their children were:

    --mary elizabeth, born 7 aug 1878, at macedonia, iowa, married william m. booton on 16 jan 1900.

    --clive erwin, born 13 apr 1882, at henderson, iowa, married about 1902 to ella mae horback. their children were lizzie e (m ), dora m (m), and clivene e (m). clive's wwi draft card shows he was a motorman for the city trolley cars in los angeles. died 15 apr 1932 at los angeles; ella then lived with daughter clivene.

    --arthur lorenzo, born 14 feb 1892 at macedonia, married bessie peska on 11 apr 1913. in 1955 he was living in oakland, calif. they had one child, william r.e. who married clara deitrich.

    silas enlisted on 4 nov 1861 as a private for co. k, 46th illinois infantry, and mustered out 29 dec 1864. widow lillian filed for a pension.
    he died 26 jan 1911 in council bluffs and was buried there.

    my best guess is that "mate" is a nickname for daughter mary ... and howard sitting front and center is silas' son from his first marriage, david h -- the h standing for howard.

    jim walters
    long beach calif

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  16. Hi Jim Thank you so much for the information..how are you related? Would you like this photo..or do you know of other relatives of the Parmleys that would ? I can be contacted by email..it is in my profile off to the left by the yellow flower.
    I never featured the Clive in this photo being married to Aunt Ell..he looks so young. I will update the blog post shortly! :) Connie

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