Thursday, March 11, 2010

Photo Number 130

Ruth this is a photo of her, just over a year old, (born on 1918), and her cousin Kenneth Tjernlund, born in 1915. Their grandmother in the photo is Anna Lundin

This is  Grandma Tjernlund with Ruth Lundin  and Tommy Lundin.  I did find Carl and Helen Lundin in 1938 at which time a girl named Ruth was a College student.  I will date this photo at 1918 based on that info.
The photographer was Waino Hirvela at Hirvela Studio in Ironwood, Mich.  I found a Bernard and Sigrid Tjernlund in Ironwood..they had two boys. .    It is just another one of those little mysteries..
Update: This photo was not marked correctly. 

This is the second photo that I have featured with a Grandmother and her Grandchildren..a wonderful tradition as far as I am concerned!  The children in this photo seem well dressed..as for Grandma..she looks like she is comfortable in her everyday clothing.  I purchased this photo in an Antique Shop in Park Rapids, Minnesota.
Thanks for stopping by, do come again:)
***Update from Abra***
I think I have some of this mystery figured out. I found Ruth Lind, daughter of Carl and Olga, in both the 1920 and 1930 census in Ironwood. Using that information I followed this Ruth in a family tree, to pretty much figure out a lot of details. From what I have found, Ruth is still living, so I will spare some of those details until we can maybe make some sort of connection. She was born in 1918 and last lived in Antigo, WI--I can't be sure that is where she is now. I could not find any Tjernlunds, but when I went through the family tree information, It stated Olga was a Rhenlund (since this info was probably taken from the census, it's quite possible that it was just a misspelling or the name was changed somewhat over the years). I was able to come up with Olga in 1900 & 1910 with the spellings Reuland & Renlund In Ironwood. The reason Carl's wife is listed as Helen in 1938 is because Olga (Ruth's mother) passed away in 1931. Olga's mother's name was Mary (father was Erick), and I believe Mary's maiden name was Johnson. I believe it is Mary pictured in the photo. According to census information, Carl'sparents were Swedish, & Olga's parents were Finnish, but spoke Swedish.

The big mystery here is Tommy. I can't find him anywhere. There is no Tommy/Tom/Thomas Lundin that I could find that fits this age group in Michigan. If at some point we find Ruth, we may get that answer. My guess is that he may have passed shortly after this picture was taken. Since Ruth was 20 months in the 1920 census, I would guess this photo was taken somewhere in late 1919.



Update:  Abra sent me Ruth's Address and also  her son Donald's Address.. I mailed them each a letter with a wallet photo..IF I hear back from them I will mail them the original.  I also requested that they share a story or two.  I sent them this blogs web address..IF they stop by I hope they leave a comment.  

Update from Ruths Family:
According to Ruth this is a photo of her, just over a year old, (born on 1918), and her cousin Kenneth Tjernlund, born in 1915. Their grandmother in the photo is Anna Lundin

12 comments:

  1. The names sound Norwegian, or am I just being confused again. Those j's show up as some evidence. My late wife's mother was pure Norwegian and she couldn't say the j. Jim was yim and jellow was yellow.

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  2. Great photos.....I love 'em.

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  3. Larry, Probably Norwegian with the name Tjernlund.
    The Hirvala sounds Finnish to me. Ya, some of the old timers used to be hard to understand! :)

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  4. I think I have some of this mystery figured out. I found Ruth Lind, daughter of Carl and Olga, in both the 1920 and 1930 census in Ironwood. Using that information I followed this Ruth in a family tree, to pretty much figure out a lot of details. From what I have found, Ruth is still living, so I will spare some of those details until we can maybe make some sort of connection. She was born in 1918 and last lived in Antigo, WI--I can't be sure that is where she is now. I could not find any Tjernlunds, but when I went through the family tree information, It stated Olga was a Rhenlund (since this info was probably taken from the census, it's quite possible that it was just a misspelling or the name was changed somewhat over the years). I was able to come up with Olga in 1900 & 1910 with the spellings Reuland & Renlund In Ironwood. The reason Carl's wife is listed as Helen in 1938 is because Olga (Ruth's mother) passed away in 1931. Olga's mother's name was Mary (father was Erick), and I believe Mary's maiden name was Johnson. I believe it is Mary pictured in the photo. According to census information, Carl'sparents were Swedish, & Olga's parents were Finnish, but spoke Swedish.

    The big mystery here is Tommy. I can't find him anywhere. There is no Tommy/Tom/Thomas Lundin that I could find that fits this age group in Michigan. If at some point we find Ruth, we may get that answer. My guess is that he may have passed shortly after this picture was taken. Since Ruth was 20 months in the 1920 census, I would guess this photo was taken somewhere in late 1919.

    I will send you more info to your email, including Ruth's married name. I sure would like to figure out the story on Tommy! ~Abra

    P.S. I LOVE the new header!!!

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  5. Ironwood,Michigan! I know it well...I live in the U.P.!! There are Lundin's where we live....I should do some investigating!

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  6. Hi everyone,
    Tjernlund is a Swedish name. Probaly from middle Norrland (north part of Sweden)
    Says Per Tjernlund, Stockholm

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  7. Guess who I found in the 1930 census? Bernard and Sigrid Tjernlund are there with two sons and a mother-in-law (Sigrid's mother). Her name? Anna Lundin! I assume this makes Sigrid a sister to Carl Lundin and aunt to Ruth and Tommy. What I can't answer is why Grandma Tjernlund would be pictured with the Lundin children, as she probably isn't their Grandma (ubnless the Rhenlunds changed their name from Tjernlund and a set of siblings married another set of siblings--certainly a possibility). So, there are some other possibilities--this is perhaps mislabeled and this is really Grandma Lundin or Grandma Rhenlund (those would be the two grandmas of Ruth & Tommy), or perhaps the families were so close that she was sort of an "surrogate" Grandma. I will search some more--I feel a need to get that last puzzle piece. Who here loves a good mystery? ;-)

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  8. I have confirmed that Sigrid Tjernlund is the slightly older sister of Carl Lundin (thereby aunt to Ruth Lundin). I found Ruth's grandmother's obituary (Mary Johnson(?) Rhenlund)from 1922. She succumbed to cancer. (She is Olga Lundin's mother). Now, something I've found a litlle confusing is that Ruth Lundin's paternal grandma (Carl's mother) is Anna Rhenland Lundin--according to a family tree--while her maternal grandfather is Erick Rhenlund. I am not sure how Erick Rhenlund and Anna Rhenlund are related or if they are. Assuming the family tree information is correct on Anna Rhenlund Lundin, then she and Erick could be siblings or cousins, which could make husband Carl & wife Olga 1st or 2nd cousins, or perhaps they are only distantly related. None of these scenarios are altogether uncommon. Quite interesting mysteries!

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  9. My grandfather, Emil Tjernlund imigrated to this country from Sweden through Marquette, Michigan with his family in the mid 1890's. His fathers name was John. Emil was only a year or two old at the time. Emil had a brother who remained in Ironwood for most of his life. Emil ended up in MPLS/St. Paul.

    Tom Tjernlund

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  10. Hi Tom Tjernland, Thanks for stopping by, this photo was returned to Ruth..here is the link to the Full Circle Three post
    http://forgottenoldphotos.blogspot.com/2010/03/full-circle-three.html

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  11. To solve the mystery if anyone is still interested, I am writing as Ruth's daughter-in-law, and I now have this picture. According to Ruth this is a photo of her, just over a year old, (born on 1918), and her cousin Kenneth Tjernlund, born in 1915. Their grandmother in the photo is Anna Lundin, mother of Ruth's father, Carl, and Ken's mother, Sigrid. Sig married Bernhard Tjernlund, thus that name on the picture, but wrong grandmother. Tommy Lundin was born much later to Carl and his second wife, Helen, Lundin. Rhenlund was Ruth's mother's maiden name. Good detective work done by you all. Hope this answers your questions! Janet Schalk
    ps Wonder who labeled this picture! They only had Ruth correct.

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Connie